Follow-Up to "Building a Champion…"

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I had some thoughts to follow-up to my “Building a Champion…” piece. A few readers probably questioned the Philly trade I proposed in which the Wolves sent a bunch of EC’s (expiring contracts) and Corey Brewer in exchange for two starters from the Sixers in Iguodola and Dalembert. Granted it was a stretch to suggest Philly would take so little in return but all the rumors point to them desperately wanting to get out from under Dalembert’s contract next season.

The funny thing is after seeing Corey put four very good games in a row maybe we should just cut him and Iggy right out of the deal.

Take a look at this trade that is just Blount and Cardinal’s EC’s for Dalembert. The only thing that’s missing is Philly’s 1st Round pick in this years draft which right now is slated for the 5th best odds in the lottery.

Why Minnesota would do it: The trade gives them a look at the defensive center they need to line up with Love and Jefferson (like I said before the player they wish Hollins could become) and gets them another top 10 lottery pick in this summers NBA draft. The chance to land 2 of Wall/Turner/Johnson/Favors/Aldrich etc. would be huge. The downside for the rebuilding Wolves is also low. They would take themselves out of the running for one of this summer’s free agents like Johnson and Gay (which some people have doubted they could get anyway) and instead have Dalembert next year at $12 million. Sure that’s a ton of money for a third big man BUT it’s very easily movable at next year’s deadline as well. (Think about how coveted the Clippers Marcus Camby is this year as an expiring contract, a defensive presence that contenders want to add. Yes Camby is better but not by a lot.) I also think getting a look at another top lottery pick would be much better for the rebuilding Wolves than locking into Gay or Iggy long term. In a “worst-case scenario” the Wolves would then set themselves up for big cap space in 2011 when guys like Carmelo Anthony, Tony Parker, Nene, Caron Butler, Kendrick Perkins, Carl Landry, and J.R. Smith  are unrestricted free agents and the likes of Kevin Durant, Greg Oden, Al Horford, Joakim Noah, Marc Gasol, Thaddeus Young and Jeff Green are restricted free agents. Not to mention they could be bringing over or trading Rubio that summer as well.

Why Philly would do it: They desperately want to get out from under Dalembert’s contract even to the point of giving up a lottery pick in this year’s draft. (I think they would anyway, something we need to ask in one of the ESPN chats with Ford or somebody.) If they were able to get back just cap space for Dalembert I think they would let go of the pick as good as it might be. It just boils down to how badly they want to get out from under that money.

Other variations: If necessary I think the Wolves could even send the Jazz or Bobcats first rounder in return in the deal. Getting another pick in the top 5 would be worth it in my opinion.

So what do you guys think? Sound like a deal worth doing? Think Philly would pull the trigger on it?

About Jonah Steinmeyer

Been a Wolves fan for probably way too long to be considered a sane human anymore. An avid golfer in my free time. I cheer for Minnesota sports but live in Florida.

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Howlintwolf
Howlintwolf

I still see no upside to the NY deal and it's almost laughable. Why in the world would we take on Curry and Jeffries for Jordan Hill who has been a complete bust and plays the same position as Big Al and Love. If all you are worried about is having money in 2011 just let Cardinal and Blount's deals fall off the books and keep the space! The Wolves would be WAY better off trading for Dalembert even without the pick then dealing with NY for those contracts. As for Philly the rumors are still circling that they want to dump Dalembert's contract. If they are willing to move Iggy I would imagine they would at least *consider* moving the pick. The Wolves could also include 1 or both extra 1st rounders and or Sessions to get Philly to agree to it too.

Pants
Pants

Letting an expiring deal fall off is not the same as maintaining expiring deals. It is easier to get a stud to MN by trade than signing a free agent. It would end up being more money out of Glen's pocket but that doesn't bother me at all. Dalembert could be a really nice guy in a rotation with Al and Kevin but if we can't sign him for a reasonable $ in 2011 then what was it worth? Jordan Hill is a cheap asset that the Wolves could be buying low on. Think of how low Brewer's stock has been over the last two and half years compared to where he is now. There is no reason Hill couldn't be a solid backup PF for the Wolves. Right now Gomes is the Wolves backup PF... we all know that doesn't work against a load of teams.

Howlintwolf
Howlintwolf

Pants- Teams can make a trade for a stud and give a team cap relief in that trade without sending them an expiring(s) in return. It's called cap space. Team's can use it to sign a player in free agency during the summer OR by trade in which they can take back more salary up in return. I'm going to agree to disagree on Jordan Hill and him being an "asset". There are teams out there looking for cap space (like Philly) that are willing to give up way more than him for ~$13 million in expiring deals. Secondly we don't need a backup power forward with Love and Jefferson. And I'm also going to disagree even more so on Gomes. If we didn't have Love I think he would be thriving in the stretch 4 role (like he did before Love came back) and is a good fit in the triangle as well. In sum, I am not against the Wolves slowing playing their rebuilding and cap space. But handing New York that space this year for Jordan Hill is one of the last things I think the Wolves should do. They can do WAY better than Jordan Hill.

slimpickens
slimpickens

I think your confused about Philadelphia's situation: "Granted it was a stretch to suggest Philly would take so little in return but all the rumors point to them desperately wanting to get out from under Dalembert’s contract next season." His (Dalembert's) contract is no longer an issue as this season is, basically, on the tail end, making him a valuable asset next year as an expiring and decent player. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here, but I don't think so. If Philly decides to rebuild, the main focus will be on Iguodala's 5 (4 and 1/2 now) year contract and Brand's 4 yrs. Iggy would more than likely be moved with Dalembert as no one would take both Brand and Dalembert, hell even Brand alone. Make sense? I don't think they'd throw in their pic either in the trade you mentioned above.

College Wolf
College Wolf

I don't see why Philly would ever do that. AND give up a lottery pick? Never. We'd probably have to give them a pick plus EC's. Philly *might* do it without the draft pick. Or, if they include the draft pick they would insist on dumping a ton more salary on us. Dalembert's deal isn't *that bad*, and he's playing well this year. I'm more intrigued with the NY Knicks trade scenario I posted in response to your last post.

Pants
Pants

The conjecture that the 76ers would trade Dalembert + top 10 pick for expiring deals is likely born out of the 2 years of chatter about moving him. If the 76ers want to strip it down and start again it makes no sense what-so-ever to trade a top 10 pick. Hell it'd make sense for the Wolves to trade expiring deals + their 2 mid-late 1st round picks for Daly + Phili's pick (toss in 3 extra 2nd round picks too if that floats Phili's boat).

howlintwolf
howlintwolf

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